Legislature(2021 - 2022)ADAMS 519

04/29/2022 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ SB 45 AGE FOR NICOTINE/E-CIG; TAX E-CIG. TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 9 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL; ALCOHOL REG TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS CSSB 9(FIN) Out of Committee
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 45(FIN)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act raising  the minimum  age  to purchase,  sell,                                                                    
     exchange,  or  possess  tobacco, a  product  containing                                                                    
     nicotine,  or an  electronic smoking  product; relating                                                                    
     to selling  a tobacco  product; relating  to possession                                                                    
     of  tobacco, electronic  smoking products,  or products                                                                    
     containing nicotine by a person  under 21 years of age;                                                                    
     relating to  the definition of 'nicotine';  relating to                                                                    
     transporting  tobacco, a  product containing  nicotine,                                                                    
     or  an  electronic  smoking product;  relating  to  the                                                                    
     taxation  of electronic  smoking products;  relating to                                                                    
     electronic smoking products;  relating to the marketing                                                                    
     of  electronic smoking  products;  relating to  tobacco                                                                    
     products; and providing for an effective date."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:31:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARY STEVENS, SPONSOR, introduced  the bill that was                                                                    
intended  to  prevent  children from  becoming  addicted  to                                                                    
nicotine.  He  indicated  that   the  tobacco  industry  had                                                                    
recognized the  decline in  cigarette smoking  and responded                                                                    
by  developing  e-cigarettes  and related  devices  designed                                                                    
primarily to appeal  to youth. He observed  that since 2015,                                                                    
the legislature  had failed to enact  any  meaningful public                                                                    
policy  to restrict  youth access and the  more time without                                                                    
policy the more  youth will become addicted  to nicotine and                                                                    
the more  industry profited. He  considered the  inaction as                                                                    
 tacit  approval   for  harmful products  and  advised  that                                                                    
immediate action was necessary.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:33:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick asked for a review the fiscal notes.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
GLENN  HOSKINSON, DIVISION  OF CORPORATIONS,  BUSINESSES AND                                                                    
PROFESSIONAL  LICENSING, DEPARTMENT  OF COMMERCE,  COMMUNITY                                                                    
AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT  (via teleconference), reviewed the                                                                    
department's published zero  fiscal note (FN3 (CED)allocated                                                                    
to the Division of Corporations, Business and Professional                                                                      
Licensing. She  explained that the  bill merely  changed the                                                                    
legal age  to purchase the electronic  smoking products. The                                                                    
division  issued  tobacco  endorsements to  businesses  that                                                                    
sold tobacco and e-cigarette products  and the process would                                                                    
not change  with passage of  the bill. The division  did not                                                                    
anticipate fiscal impact from the legislation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:35:01 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:35:12 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick asked  for a review of  the changes between                                                                    
the House and Senate versions of the bill.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
TIM  LAMKIN,  STAFF,  SENATOR  GARY  STEVENS,  provided  the                                                                    
changes between the bill versions.  He communicated that the                                                                    
bills were  largely the  same except for  the tax  rate that                                                                    
was changed from  75 percent of wholesale to  45 percent. In                                                                    
addition, it was necessary to  consider the definition of e-                                                                    
cigarette products for the purposes of taxation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:36:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  referenced the tax  rate reduction                                                                    
from 75 to 45 percent. He  asked if Mr. Lamkin was referring                                                                    
to  e-cigarette products  only and  whether the  established                                                                    
tobacco tax  would remain the  same. Mr. Lamkin  answered in                                                                    
the  affirmative. He  indicated that  the proposed  tax only                                                                    
applied to e-cigarette products.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool  asked  if  a product  had  to  contain                                                                    
nicotine to be taxed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Lamkin replied  in the negative. He  explained that less                                                                    
than 1  percent of the  market share included  products that                                                                    
contained  nicotine  and  the  federal  government  was  not                                                                    
regulating or  testing the products. He  had discovered from                                                                    
studies that many of the  products did contain nicotine even                                                                    
though they  were labeled otherwise. Vape  liquids should be                                                                    
presumed  to  contain  nicotine. Representative  Wool  asked                                                                    
whether all  vaping products  would be  taxed the  same. Mr.                                                                    
Lamkin  replied   in  the   affirmative.  He   reminded  the                                                                    
committee  that  the  point  was to  keep  nicotine  out  of                                                                    
children's hands.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:39:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NICOLE REYNOLDS,  DEPUTY DIRECTOR, TAX  DIVISION, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  REVENUE  (via  teleconference), reviewed  the  published                                                                    
fiscal  impact  note for  the  Department  of Revenue  (DOR)                                                                    
allocated  to   Taxation  and   Treasury  (FN5   (REV).  She                                                                    
communicated that the department  did not estimate a revenue                                                                    
impact  from  the  age  change  because  most  sellers  were                                                                    
already conforming  to the federal  age change. In  terms of                                                                    
taxing e-cigarettes,  the division estimated that  taxing e-                                                                    
cigarettes  at  45  percent of  the  wholesale  price  would                                                                    
generate an additional  $2.2 million in revenue  in FY 2024,                                                                    
rising with inflation  to $2.4 million in FY  2028. The bill                                                                    
designated  the   purpose  of  the  revenue   collected  for                                                                    
education,  programs,   and  advertising  relating   to  the                                                                    
hazards of  electronic smoking products. The  department had                                                                    
reflected  the   revenue  under  the   temporary  designated                                                                    
general  fund code  1252  because SB  45  mandated that  the                                                                    
revenue be accounted for separately.  She read the following                                                                    
from    page    2    of   the    fiscal    note    analysis:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     These   estimates    use   updated   data    from   the                                                                    
     Matanuska-Susitna  Borough's  tax  on   ESP  sales  and                                                                  
     updated  population data  to develop  an estimated  tax                                                                    
     base  for  Alaska. Since  there  is  no statewide  data                                                                    
     available  for ESP  sales,  there is  a  wide range  of                                                                    
     uncertainty around  the revenue  estimates.   Given the                                                                    
     wide  range of  uncertainty,  no additional  adjustment                                                                    
     was made  to FY 2024  revenue estimates to  account for                                                                    
     potential  stockpiling  of  ESPs   in  advance  of  the                                                                    
     effective date of the tax.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Reynolds furthered  that the  products  would be  taxed                                                                    
under AS  43.50.300, which  was an  excise tax  for products                                                                    
brought  into the  state  for sale  or  manufactured in  the                                                                    
state for  sale in  the state. The  fiscal analysis  did not                                                                    
include electronic smoking products  purchased online by the                                                                    
final consumer.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:43:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool   asked  for   clarification  regarding                                                                    
products  purchased   online  and  taxation.   Ms.  Reynolds                                                                    
answered the tax  would only apply to  products brought into                                                                    
the state  to sell. She  explained that if a  person ordered                                                                    
the product  online for personal  use, the tax would  not be                                                                    
levied on the  product. Representative Wool asked  if it was                                                                    
legal for someone to order a  vape product online and not be                                                                    
taxed. He  asked if  the answerer was  yes, whether  the tax                                                                    
would  further incentivize  a person  to  order the  product                                                                    
online. Ms. Reynolds replied that  the tax was not levied on                                                                    
products   brought  into   the  state   for  personal   use,                                                                    
consequently, if  a person were to  order electronic smoking                                                                    
products for personal  use over the internet,  the tax would                                                                    
not apply. She  did not believe there were  any federal laws                                                                    
preventing a  person from  ordering tobacco  products online                                                                    
and shipping  the product  to another  state. Representative                                                                    
Wool stated his impression was  that a person was liable for                                                                    
the state tax  if they ordered tobacco  products online. Ms.                                                                    
Reynolds  answered that  cigarettes  were taxed  differently                                                                    
than  other tobacco  products and  were  taxable if  brought                                                                    
into  the state  for  sale  and for  personal  use with  the                                                                    
exception of the first 400 brought in for personal use.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:47:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Wool  stated   his  understanding   of  Ms.                                                                    
Reynolds response.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KATIE  STEFFENS,  STATE  OF ALASKA  TOBACCO  PREVENTION  AND                                                                    
CONTROL PROGRAM,  DIVISION OF  PUBLIC HEALTH,  DEPARTMENT OF                                                                    
HEALTH  AND SOCIAL  SERVICES (via  teleconference), reviewed                                                                    
the  Department  of  Health and  Social  Services  published                                                                    
zero  fiscal note  allocated to  Chronic Disease  Prevention                                                                    
and  Health Promotion  (FN  4 (HSS).  She  related that  the                                                                    
program  was responsible  for  implementing a  comprehensive                                                                    
tobacco   prevention  and   control   program  and   limited                                                                    
programmatic impact and no fiscal impact was foreseen.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  indicated that the amendment  deadline for                                                                    
SB 45 was on May 4, 2022, at 9:00 A.M.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SB  45  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 45 - E-Cigs Research AK Local Tax Rates February 2022.pdf HFIN 4/29/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 45
SB 45 - E-Cigs Research Cigs in a Pod.pdf HFIN 4/29/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 45
SB 45 - E-Cigs Research Sampling of Confiscated in Schools.pdf HFIN 4/29/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 45
SB 45 - E-Cigs Research T21 in the Military 4.16.2020.pdf HFIN 4/29/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 45
SB 45 - E-Cigs Sectional version D.pdf HFIN 4/29/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 45
SB 45 Public Testimony Rec'd by 042922.pdf HFIN 4/29/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 45